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RSS feed with expanded content.| From | Damian Georgeff <damian@xxxxxxxxxxxx> |
| Date | Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:23:59 +0930 |
| Organization | A.I.U.G. |
| References | <4355D89C.5010001@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> |
Greetings Mark Thanks for another interesting article; keep up the good work. Are you aware of any plans, projects or groups that are working towards public and open space use and travel without the involvement of NASA? >From what I've heard over the years, NASA is more a hinderance to open space travel and exploration than a help. Be Well Damian Mark Reiff wrote: > FYI, > > Can you say gullible? :) > > I told these guys 10 years ago that they were being used by NASA and their > contractors, who would make hollow promises to appease the space groupies long > enough to get their budget passed, and then would go back to either pounding the > commercial guys or ignoring them, whichever did the most damage to their > business plans. > > Of course some find it profitable to be used or worse to fool others into being > used. :( > > "Space Frontier Foundation Departs from the Space Exploration Alliance" > SFF Press Release > http://www.space-frontier.org/PressReleases/2005/20051015SFF-SEAsplit.html > > : When we helped to form the Space Exploration Alliance it was with > : great excitement that at last the various citizen and constituency > : groups for space were coming together to support the opening of > : space to humanity. > > : Our enthusiasm was centered on our shared belief that the > : president's policy announced for NASA in early 2004 was an exciting > : and bold vision that could be used to transform and energize our > : national space efforts ? producing, after some 30 years of > : stagnation and dead ends, a new goal-oriented direction for our > : space agency ? which would "extend a human presence across our > : solar system." > > : In other words, we signed on with SEA to support a decisive change > : in our national space program that would create a new way of doing > : things in space for America and result in the establishment of > : humanity beyond the Earth. We did not sign on to support what the > : SEA has become, a cheerleader for any and all NASA policies, with > : no though to the wisdom and effectiveness of these policies. > > : Therefore, the SEA's unwillingness to say what even Mike Griffin is > : willing to say shows a lack of conviction, maybe even a lack of > : guts, to assert what we all know to be true. > > : Furthermore, the Foundation does not believe that the current plans > : being put forth by the agency will meet this challenge ? we believe > : they are both unsustainable and unaffordable. The story will come > : out over time that NASA cannot fit this program in their budget, > : and later the program will be hit by the inevitable large delays > : and huge cost overruns. The SEA is not willing to advocate > : solutions to these obvious problems to create a sustainable and > : affordable approach. > > : The Foundation should not need to state the obvious ? but we will. > : Being citizens of the richest and most powerful democracy on this > : planet, we are all aware of the system that has made this nation > : great ? free enterprise. Yet the SEA repeatedly missed > : opportunities to support and promote ideas for inserting innovative > : private sector approaches into NASA's plans, even though Mike > : Griffin has not only suggested he is open to such ideas, but is > : promoting them himself and asking for help. Instead, the SEA has > : reverted to blind cheerleading for whatever approaches NASA has put > : forward ? as tied to the old ways as such approaches may be, as > : short-sighted as they may be, and as doomed to fail in the quest to > : open the frontier as they are. In the end, this blindness, if it > : does not kill the program in its infancy, will result in an > : inevitable repeat of the dead end of Apollo ? which would be a > : betrayal to future generations. > > : Therefore, we must sadly depart this organization. We cannot be > : part of a fan club for a status quo that has failed so miserably > : time after time in our nation's quest for space, resulting in > : hundreds-of-billions of wasted taxpayer dollars. Rather, we join > : with other organizations and groups that are willing to support and > : promote a national space agenda that actually delivers on the > : president's vision, by enrolling not only the government, but also > : the private sector and the people themselves in a magnificent quest > : to open the frontier. A few government employees walking on the > : Moon in 2018 is not enough, and does not justify the investment of > : over $100 Billion. Our goal is for tens, then hundreds, then > : thousands of free citizens to lead the world outwards beyond the > : Earth, not just as visitors, but also as citizens of the solar > : system, our new and extended home. Mike Griffin has said his goal > : is the permanent settlement of space ? and we intend to call him on > : it, support him in achieving it, and to give him our ideas on how > : to succeed. > > : We urge the SEA to reconsider its positions and to make it a top > : SEA priority to insert more free enterprise and non-traditional > : approaches in NASA's plans as the key to "sustainability" and > : "affordability," which will be the key to the success of the Vision > : for Space Exploration. And we look forward to working with the > : individual organizations of the SEA on issues where we can find > : common ground in the future. > > : Thank you, > > : Ad Astra per Ardua! > > : Bob Werb > : Chairman of the Board, Space Frontier Foundation > > -- > Mark Reiff <markreiff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > -- > Space Future | To unsubscribe send email with the subject "unsubscribe" > www.spacefuture.com | to "sf-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx". > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.1/136 - Release Date: 15/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.1/136 - Release Date: 15/10/2005 -- Space Future | To unsubscribe send email with the subject "unsubscribe" www.spacefuture.com | to "sf-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx".